Wednesday, 20 June 2007

Invincible Ignorance

1792 Ignorance of Christ and his Gospel, bad example given by others, enslavement to one's passions, assertion of a mistaken notion of autonomy of conscience, rejection of the Church's authority and her teaching, lack of conversion and of charity: these can be at the source of errors of judgment in moral conduct.

1793 If - on the contrary - the ignorance is invincible, or the moral subject is not responsible for his erroneous judgment, the evil committed by the person cannot be imputed to him. It remains no less an evil, a privation, a disorder. One must therefore work to correct the errors of moral conscience.

The Church teaches that there is no salvation outside of Her. The phrase dates back to Origen, but he was describing something understood within Church teaching-because Christ is the Way the Truth and the Life and He established His Church to be that Way. But God is Merciful and anyway, rather sensible and there has always been an understanding that those who are not fully members of the Church through no fault of their own can still obtain salvation. They do this through the 'baptism of desire' which essentially means that the person desires God, but in this life was not offered the fullest opportunity to find Him in His Church. This would be 'invincible ignorance'.

Now I grew up in confused and confusing times. On the one had I was taught a somewhat Feenyistic view that said that anyone who could not see the Catholic Faith was the One True Faith was just stupid and deserved damnation-and on the other side that there were many paths up the mountain and who really cared which one you chose?

As a result of this I spent many years in the pic'n'mix section of Catholic Cafeteria, trying to find God and meaning in the bizarre mush mash of stuff around me.

I think if I had dropped dead back then, I would still have had a chance of heaven.

But then God in His mercy began to offer me opportunities to really find Him.

I got into MARYVALE under some rather unusual circumstances and from there I found access to all sorts of information about the Faith.

The first thing I learned there was just how much I didn't know! I realised I had access to a whole new world, the pearl of great price was mine for the asking. What an amazing and wonderful thing to find.
I spent all I had on books and tapes and spent hours on the Internet looking a Catholic sites and praying for discernment.
There is so much available these days including EWTN and Catholic radio that simply was not around only a few years ago.

God surely offers the chance to truly know Him and understand Him and His Church if we ask, and it's not so hard to find the truth any longer.

So I wonder sometimes how invincible is a lot of people's ignorance? Surely those who phone Catholic Answers challenging the catholic faith HEAR the answer-then what?
When offered the chance to know the Truth we must not turn away-test it yes, and keep searching. Those who seek WILL find-Jesus promised.

For more on this go HERE and HERE.


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Catholic Mission said...

Tuesday, March 20, 2012
Bishop Fellay, Fr.Schmidberger,FSSP,Joseph Fenton seem unaware the baptism of desire is not an explicit exception to the dogma

Catholic Mission said...

Friday, October 7, 2011
Dean of the Faculty of Philosophy, University Pontifical Regina Apostolorum, Rome in his office today morning said he was familiar with the text of the dogma Cantate Domino and he would endorse it in public.

Fr. Rafael Pascual said he and other Legionaries of Christ priests took an oath in Church to be faithful to the Magisterium of the Church and he showed me on his computer the text of this oath.

He took exception to a report (1) I e-mailed him which indicated that the Legionaries of Christ priests have not affirmed the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Fr. Pascual who is the Director of the Master of Science and Faith Institute knew that the dogma on extra ecclesiam nulla salus, Cantate Domino (2) was in accord with Vatican Council II (LG 14,AG 7) (3), Dominus Iesus 20 (4) and other Magisterial text.

The Church also affirms it may be mentioned that non Catholics can be saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire. However the Church Fathers, popes and Councils always new that these cases were implicit and so did not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. They are only known to God and we would not meet any such case in person. Also no Magisterial text claims that they are explicitly known to us. -Lionel Andrades